Tuesday, August 21, 2007

A message for Tim

This post is a message for Tim who I am now genuinely quite worried about. To explain, apparently I.... oh just watch the video (sorry about the shitty lighting).

So...errr. yeah. Expect I will be called a barefaced liar and what not now, accused of smearing Tim etc. Will also probably have a comment I made yesterday where I said,
"in fairness to Tim he isn't trolling at all. I am. I planned to write about this subject this morning, and basically saw an opportunity to highlight some weak reasoning at the same time. The dominance of this sort fallacy driven stuff from the Left is starting to get on my tits."
thrown back in my face as evidence of my lies. Hey ho. The conspiracy angle is loopy though, and that way lies horrible things. Anyways, not going to say much more on the matter, said my bit in the video, normal service will be resumed tomorrow morning.

P.S. Comments probably won't be authorised until morning now.

15 comments:

davidk said...
21 Aug 2007 23:27:00  

Dizzy

I read and enjoy your blog everyday. I think you are better off ignoring tim ireland- I have no idea if he is meant to be important or something but he always reads like a nutter. He seems obsessed with you and Iain to an incredible level but I don't understand why you would want indulge his ramblings. I have tried to read his critiques of you and Iain but they are almost as poorly written as my post:-) and seem as intellectually coherent to me as David Icke on the lizard people.

Thomas B said...
22 Aug 2007 00:28:00  

Does it add to your concern that I'm not able to do a DNS lookup for www.bloggerheads.com ?

Anonymous said...
22 Aug 2007 02:51:00  

Dizzy - maybe not one for actually posting as it'll just wind T.I. up even more, but I'd seriously suggest trying to ignore him. You can't reason with the guy - he's a fruitloop. All you'll get is more grief. As for his outrageous claims, hell, don't worry - he's got no credibility left.

dizzy said...
22 Aug 2007 06:09:00  

Yeah you see I understand what you're all saying. But that's why I made the point that whatever I, or anyone he's decided to go for does, is basically screwed because he has decided that's it and whatever they do it will be fitted into whatever the latest theory is.

On the question of whether he's important. I don't think many bloggers are particular important, however Tim is relevant because he specialises in Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) which means his wild and sometimes delusional accusations do get found quite easily.

There is one other thing of course, he has accused me of being involved in some sort of conspiracy to divert attention away from something that he thinks Iain Dale is involved in and it's bollocks, and he's effectively called me a liar in the process of it. So I'm not just going to ignore that unfortunately.

Praguetory said...
22 Aug 2007 07:15:00  

Ever heard of "Thatcher's Blame".

It means whatever happens everything that goes wrong is the fault of the person you are trying to scapegoat. For example, early in Mrs T's premiership when we were still recovering from stagflation (actually caused under the previous Labour government), law and order problems were represented by the left as being due to poverty in general and the Thatcher government's supposed callous disregard for the poor in particular.

A few years later when the economy was roaring ahead the same commentators represented law and order problems as being due to materialism and people having too much money due to the policies of the same government.

By the way, Tim has just stopped short of saying that I was a Tory sock-puppet during the Ealing campaign. It really hurt him that even he was unable to put together enough circumstantial evidence to post on it. This will be taken as a confession I predict.

JuliaM said...
22 Aug 2007 08:47:00  

"...he has accused me of being involved in some sort of conspiracy to divert attention away from something that he thinks Iain Dale is involved in and it's bollocks, and he's effectively called me a liar in the process of it."

Well, yes. That's what he does. To people like him, everything has to be a conspiracy!

For if not, it means that people have heard his theory and rejected it as unworthy or lacking in factual basis.

And that just can't be allowed to happen...

Praguetory said...
22 Aug 2007 09:47:00  

Following on from Juliam's comment, people who raise offending facts or arguments have to be put completely beyond the pale rendering his or her opinion totally unworthy of discussion. Tim does this whenever his arguments are ripped to shreds with logic and reason.

It's his problem that this happens so often.

The climate change camp argument which Tim ran that one edited video clip didn't show any clear evidence of attacks on police (although it hardly suggested a non-confrontational approach from the protestors) permits one to conclude that there were no attacks is just an especially good example of his idiotic and biased reasoning.

Cue discussion about sustained etc that I will not be entering into.

Tim said...
22 Aug 2007 10:27:00  

I'm touched by your thoughtful intervention. So much effort has gone into it.

PS - You might want to have a word with Iain about the likelihood of him quietly begging you for help via email. Oh and you;re wrong... that police officer embellished their report.

dizzy said...
22 Aug 2007 10:34:00  

So touched in fact that in your PS you effectively call me a liar. I rest my case.

Oh and you;re wrong... that police officer embellished their report.

I didn't say he didn't (at least three times).

Tim said...
22 Aug 2007 10:39:00  

Then what the hell are you banging on about... and Dun-dun-dahhhh why?

PS - You really, really, *really* might want to have a word with Iain about the likelihood of him quietly begging you for help via email.

Anonymous said...
22 Aug 2007 10:40:00  

Tim said - "Oh and you;re wrong... that police officer embellished their report."

Argumentum ad nauseam.

Justin Hinchcliffe said...
22 Aug 2007 10:46:00  

He once left a message on my blog, so I assumed he'd be 'after me'.

Other than his very funny clips on Blair. e.g. BackingBlair.com, I don't know ANYTHING about him.

dizzy said...
22 Aug 2007 10:50:00  

Then what the hell are you banging on about... and Dun-dun-dahhhh why?

What?

PS - You really, really, *really* might want to have a word with Iain about the likelihood of him quietly begging you for help via email.

Are you referring to the incidnet a month or so ago where Iain accidentally CC'd me instead of BCC'ing me on one of your ranting emails? Because I really don't understand its relevance unless of course you've doing one of those wild leaps of faith again (which I mentioned in the video) and thus are assuming that because he fucked up once he must be BCC'ing me all the time on all your mails.

Of course even if I tell you it's not true I expect you will write that it is anyway and demand that the only way I show it isn't is too prove the negative - that would be the negative that you will then swear blind in the face isn't a negative at all.

Seriously, give it up before you really lose it.

dizzy said...
22 Aug 2007 10:55:00  

This thread is being locked. I can't be arsed with a ping pong match today. Too much to do. I said my bit in the video, call me a liar, choose to ignore it if you must. I linked to you because you were talking crap, no conspiracy, no secert emailing, just me linking to a shitty bit of thinking as part of a wider topic.

dizzy said...
22 Aug 2007 11:13:00  

I know I just said comments were off but I think I;ve just figured out what Tim means when he says

"Then what the hell are you banging on about... and Dun-dun-dahhhh why?"

I think he's referring to the post below That the same post which I mentioned in the video. That's the post where I said I was attacking his reasoning for reaching a conclusion but not whether the conclusion was true or false.

Presumably the "Dun-dun-dahhhh why?" is because he still has it in his head that the post was a conspiracy designed to divert attention away from Iain Dale. That end of course has already been decided and thus all theorising and comments by him seem to fitted in to make his theory work.

Shame it's compleet bollocks, but there you go. Now it really is being locked.


 

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