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@Nexus:the people involved in making such images a...

2007-07-07T21:49:00.000+01:00

@Nexus:

the people involved in making such images are either perverts or deeply damaged and vulnerable

if government can do anything to disrupts the contexts in which the former fall into the hands of the latter than so much the better

You have, of course, evidence to back up your claims above? No?

Well, no, you haven't because even the Home Office, in their biased and loaded "Consultation" admitted that there was *no evidence* that this material caused harm, let alone offered any proof that it would restrict supply from the majority of the Rest of the World where much of this is perfectly legal.

@Paul Coombes:

Does this mean that the genital whipping that James Bond suffered in the Casino Royale would be illegal?

Not if you just watch it as part of the film.

HOWEVER, if you take a *screen capture* of that scene, or one from Saw or Hostel or Captivity etc and in someone else's opinion it is "extreme" and you took that capture for "sexual gratification", then, congratulations! You have just committed a Criminal Offence that can get you three years in jail and a mention on the Sex Offenders Register!

Alternatively, write to your MP via http://www.theyworkforyou.com and express your objections to this ludicrous and draconian law!

Well if you're doing hoary old jokes...Man gets co...

2007-07-07T03:14:00.000+01:00

Well if you're doing hoary old jokes...

Man gets convicted of unnatural relations with his dog. Judge says: "This is such an unusual case I really don't know what punishment to give you". Voice from the back of the court: "Give 'im the cat".

the people involved in making such images are eith...

2007-07-03T22:23:00.000+01:00

the people involved in making such images are either perverts

You may think so, but who are you to tell me or anyone else what is perverted?

I happen to think that naked mud wrestling is depraved, but there would be uproar if that was banned!

Does this mean that the genital whipping that Jame...

2007-07-03T13:26:00.000+01:00

Does this mean that the genital whipping that James Bond suffered in the Casino Royale would be illegal?

If I am into sadism, necrophilia and bestiality am...

2007-07-03T13:23:00.000+01:00

If I am into sadism, necrophilia and bestiality am I flogging a dead horse? Sorry, couldn't resist that hoary old joke.
The problem with this is I am not sure how I am going to word the letter I will need to write to my MP without sounding like I am guilty of enjoying one or more of the potential offences.

I imagine all those gay men having anal sex.fistin...

2007-07-03T11:37:35.462+01:00

I imagine all those gay men having anal sex.fisting, etc will be pleased to know they are deeply damanged, vulnerable perverts. You gonna propose the Government cures them?

what a load of theoretical libertarian tripethe pe...

2007-07-03T11:34:00.000+01:00

what a load of theoretical libertarian tripe

the people involved in making such images are either perverts or deeply damaged and vulnerable

if government can do anything to disrupts the contexts in which the former fall into the hands of the latter than so much the better

As a lawyer practising criminal law, I am just sal...

2007-07-03T11:33:00.000+01:00

As a lawyer practising criminal law, I am just salivating at the opportunities for defending people against this inane piece of nonsense which has more loopholes than a Norman Castle.

Bring it on! More loot for lawyers!

I'm all for protecting animals, dead bodies and th...

2007-07-02T21:22:00.000+01:00

I'm all for protecting animals, dead bodies and the others, but "simulated" porn?

As you say, what is the difference between that and simulated violence in films?

What next? Smoking to be banned on film in case people get bad ideas put into their head?

The term "Thought Police" springs to mind.

If it's happening in private how do they police it...

2007-07-02T19:18:00.000+01:00

If it's happening in private how do they police it, are they going to put cctv in every room in everybodies house,the only thing that I can see happening if a couple row and one goes and tells.

Does a pic of Tony Blair and his wife count as bes...

2007-07-02T18:10:00.000+01:00

Does a pic of Tony Blair and his wife count as bestiality?

I'm with you on this one Dizzy, if only Steven Mil...

2007-07-02T15:47:00.000+01:00

I'm with you on this one Dizzy, if only Steven Milligan were still around to speak out against this sort of invasion of private sexual behaviour, eh?

Anyway, it reminds me of a story an Irish guy told me about a bestiality trial in Galway, or somewhere suitably rural, a few years ago. The accused, apparently such a hopeless case his own lawyer refused to defend him, was forced to be his own counsel.

His defence was something like this: "Well, your honour, I was standing on the biscuit tin (pause) when the horse backed into me..."

It terrifies me that we have a government so keen ...

2007-07-02T15:30:00.000+01:00

It terrifies me that we have a government so keen to restrict what we can see, and hear and think. I remember reading 1984 as a young and naive teenager and being terrified by its story and world but took comfort in the fact that I lived in a country, a democracy, where that could never happen.

I agree with you Dizzy - as long as things are consensual I don't really have a problem with anything - can't say I've every seen myself as an extreme libertarian, just as someone tolerant and possessed of common sense. Something are government can't say of itself.